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By: Gary Helsinger </title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-410338">Problem Child</a>.
Sorry, but that photo is not the 4480 Sunset (at Virgil) location. It is true that Stan Burke bought 12 Simon's locations in 1951 and converted them to Stan's, but this is not the one in this photo. If you A/B with this footage of that Stan's from the film THE CROOKED WEB you can see numerous differences such as it's missing the roof column sign, as well as the sign that says "Drive In Coffee Shop" but most notably the "brim" of the room is too narrow and does not have room for that wide, right angle neon. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=847084993722733
As far as Sunset and La Brea, that was never a Simon's/Stan's location (that would be the one a couple blocks east on the SE corner of Sunset and Highland.) The NW corner of Sunset and La Brea was built as a McDonnells in the early 30s and became Tiny Naylor's in 1949 until it was demolished in 1980. Another McDonnell's was on La Brea at the NW corner of Beverly Blvd. You're also mixing that up the Sunset and VINE with was one of the aCarpenter's locations, on the NE corner, which later moved across the street to the SE corner of Vine when NBC was built. They demolished the Pig Stand to build the SE Carpenter's, and it later also became a Stan's in 1951.
So the search is still on to find out with of the 12 Simon's/Stan's conversions is this one in the photo!]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-410338">Problem Child</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, but that photo is not the 4480 Sunset (at Virgil) location. It is true that Stan Burke bought 12 Simon’s locations in 1951 and converted them to Stan’s, but this is not the one in this photo. If you A/B with this footage of that Stan’s from the film THE CROOKED WEB you can see numerous differences such as it’s missing the roof column sign, as well as the sign that says “Drive In Coffee Shop” but most notably the “brim” of the room is too narrow and does not have room for that wide, right angle neon. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=847084993722733" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=847084993722733</a></p>
<p>As far as Sunset and La Brea, that was never a Simon’s/Stan’s location (that would be the one a couple blocks east on the SE corner of Sunset and Highland.) The NW corner of Sunset and La Brea was built as a McDonnells in the early 30s and became Tiny Naylor’s in 1949 until it was demolished in 1980. Another McDonnell’s was on La Brea at the NW corner of Beverly Blvd. You’re also mixing that up the Sunset and VINE with was one of the aCarpenter’s locations, on the NE corner, which later moved across the street to the SE corner of Vine when NBC was built. They demolished the Pig Stand to build the SE Carpenter’s, and it later also became a Stan’s in 1951.</p>
<p>So the search is still on to find out with of the 12 Simon’s/Stan’s conversions is this one in the photo!</p>
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By: Problem Child </title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 23:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[I am confident this is a picture of the "Stan's" located at six-points, 4480 Sunset Blvd, listed on the menu as "Sunset & Virgil". It once stood across the street from the Vista Theater {still standing and owned by QUENTIN TARANTINO}. If I am correct, this was "Simon's" before it was "Stan's". The Sunset and La Brea "Stan's" was first "McDonell's", then "Carpenter's" which was later demolished to make way for "Tiny Nailer's". In the picture shown there is a wall of a multistory brick-building seen at the right which would be the six-points location. "Stan's" at Sunset and La Brea had a house with a palm tree in that location until a two-story strip-mall was built in the 1970's.]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confident this is a picture of the “Stan’s” located at six-points, 4480 Sunset Blvd, listed on the menu as “Sunset & Virgil”. It once stood across the street from the Vista Theater {still standing and owned by QUENTIN TARANTINO}. If I am correct, this was “Simon’s” before it was “Stan’s”. The Sunset and La Brea “Stan’s” was first “McDonell’s”, then “Carpenter’s” which was later demolished to make way for “Tiny Nailer’s”. In the picture shown there is a wall of a multistory brick-building seen at the right which would be the six-points location. “Stan’s” at Sunset and La Brea had a house with a palm tree in that location until a two-story strip-mall was built in the 1970’s.</p>
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By: Martin Turnbull </title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Turnbull]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 23:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-409012">Gary Helsinger</a>.
Here is my masterlist of Stan's locations:
· 2902 Sunset Blvd
· 6760 Sunset Blvd
· 4480 Sunset Blvd
· 9156 Sunset Blvd
· 2700 E. Olympic Blvd
· 5 S. Pasadena Ave, Pasadena
· 9735 Wilshire Blvd
· 9402 Wilshire Blvd
· 3801 Wilshire Blvd
· 3607 S. Figueroa
· 233 W. Washington Blvd
· 4501 E. Florence Ave, Bell
· 5201 Whittier Blvd]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-409012">Gary Helsinger</a>.</p>
<p>Here is my masterlist of Stan’s locations:<br />
· 2902 Sunset Blvd<br />
· 6760 Sunset Blvd<br />
· 4480 Sunset Blvd<br />
· 9156 Sunset Blvd<br />
· 2700 E. Olympic Blvd<br />
· 5 S. Pasadena Ave, Pasadena<br />
· 9735 Wilshire Blvd<br />
· 9402 Wilshire Blvd<br />
· 3801 Wilshire Blvd<br />
· 3607 S. Figueroa<br />
· 233 W. Washington Blvd<br />
· 4501 E. Florence Ave, Bell<br />
· 5201 Whittier Blvd</p>
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By: Gary Helsinger </title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 10:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-409005">Al Donnelly</a>.
Yes, the Sunset/Virgil Stan's is in that film as well as CROOKED WEB. However, it's a different Stan's than the one in Martin's photo. (which I've been trying to identify location for YEARS!)
Stan Burke built several drive-in diners in Sacramento in the 40s. In 1951 he bought 12 of the remaining Simon's drive-ins in Los Angeles from the Simons (Lyman) brothers, and converted the signs to Stan's. I know these 5 locations of Stan's were converted from a Simon's:
Sunset & Highland (SE) 6760 Sunset Bl, kitty corner Hollywood High
Sunset & Virgil (SE) (across from the Vista Theater)
Wilshire & Fairfax (NW) across from May Co/Academy Museum
Wilshire & Hoover (SW) 2902 Wilshire Blvd across from Lafayette Park
Wilshire & Linden #8 (NE) 9735 Wilshire Blvd, Beverly Hills
So this one in the photo has to be one of the other 7 Simon's sold to Stan Burke. It might be one of the ones in Martin's directory clippings above!]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-409005">Al Donnelly</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, the Sunset/Virgil Stan’s is in that film as well as CROOKED WEB. However, it’s a different Stan’s than the one in Martin’s photo. (which I’ve been trying to identify location for YEARS!)</p>
<p>Stan Burke built several drive-in diners in Sacramento in the 40s. In 1951 he bought 12 of the remaining Simon’s drive-ins in Los Angeles from the Simons (Lyman) brothers, and converted the signs to Stan’s. I know these 5 locations of Stan’s were converted from a Simon’s:</p>
<p>Sunset & Highland (SE) 6760 Sunset Bl, kitty corner Hollywood High<br />
Sunset & Virgil (SE) (across from the Vista Theater)<br />
Wilshire & Fairfax (NW) across from May Co/Academy Museum<br />
Wilshire & Hoover (SW) 2902 Wilshire Blvd across from Lafayette Park<br />
Wilshire & Linden #8 (NE) 9735 Wilshire Blvd, Beverly Hills</p>
<p>So this one in the photo has to be one of the other 7 Simon’s sold to Stan Burke. It might be one of the ones in Martin’s directory clippings above!</p>
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By: Al Donnelly </title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 07:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Googling for Cort Fox Ford in East Hollywood brings forth a movie mention of “The True Story of Lynn Stuart” (1958-Columbia Pictures) which had scenes filmed at Stan’s on Virgil & Sunset. Looking for that film location shots pulls up numerous images of the drive-in at night. There’s also a daylight (off center) frontal shot with signage and roof details that seem a bit unusual…perhaps a carryover from an earlier incarnation under another chain’s ownership (?). [Another film is also cited with more of the Cort Fox Ford facilities used in the footage.]]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googling for Cort Fox Ford in East Hollywood brings forth a movie mention of “The True Story of Lynn Stuart” (1958-Columbia Pictures) which had scenes filmed at Stan’s on Virgil & Sunset. Looking for that film location shots pulls up numerous images of the drive-in at night. There’s also a daylight (off center) frontal shot with signage and roof details that seem a bit unusual…perhaps a carryover from an earlier incarnation under another chain’s ownership (?). [Another film is also cited with more of the Cort Fox Ford facilities used in the footage.]</p>
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By: Gary Helsinger </title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Helsinger]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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Here’s a Pinterest post I made for the Stan’s that shows the first 3 drive-ins built in Sacramento. I think that the first two did not have any seats, but I believe the 3rd one built in 1943 at 1600 K Street (photo with George Barris’ car) did have some counter seats
Note/Update: I had passed on the erroneous information to Martin that this well shared photo was in Sacramento, after I confirmed it with an author who had used it on the cover of her book about lost restaurants in Sacramento. However, I later discovered that she had misidentified the photo. I had also previously identified it was NOT the 6760 Sunset (at Highland location either)
Since it was clearly one of the 12 Simon’s that converted to Stan’s in 1951, it must be one of those. From other photos I can see that it’s also not Wilshire/Fairfax, Wilshire/Linden, Wilshire/Hoover, nor Sunset/Virgil…so it must be one of the other 7 locations that I’m not aware of.
The mystery continues!]]></description>
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<p>Here’s a Pinterest post I made for the Stan’s that shows the first 3 drive-ins built in Sacramento. I think that the first two did not have any seats, but I believe the 3rd one built in 1943 at 1600 K Street (photo with George Barris’ car) did have some counter seats </p>
<p>Note/Update: I had passed on the erroneous information to Martin that this well shared photo was in Sacramento, after I confirmed it with an author who had used it on the cover of her book about lost restaurants in Sacramento. However, I later discovered that she had misidentified the photo. I had also previously identified it was NOT the 6760 Sunset (at Highland location either)</p>
<p>Since it was clearly one of the 12 Simon’s that converted to Stan’s in 1951, it must be one of those. From other photos I can see that it’s also not Wilshire/Fairfax, Wilshire/Linden, Wilshire/Hoover, nor Sunset/Virgil…so it must be one of the other 7 locations that I’m not aware of. </p>
<p>The mystery continues!</p>
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By: Jim Stamson </title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Stamson]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2024 03:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[I was in the Air Force at McClellan AFB Sacramento from 1956 to 1959.
My 1953 white Buick convertable and I spent many great times at Stan's.
As I remember, car hops took and delivered our order. I do not remember
any inside dining.]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the Air Force at McClellan AFB Sacramento from 1956 to 1959.<br />
My 1953 white Buick convertable and I spent many great times at Stan’s.<br />
As I remember, car hops took and delivered our order. I do not remember<br />
any inside dining.</p>
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By: Jim </title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2023 02:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-367039">CHARLENE</a>.
That was called Henry’s Rite Spot.]]></description>
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<p>That was called Henry’s Rite Spot.</p>
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By: Gary Helsinger </title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Helsinger]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2023 23:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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This photo with Dorothy is the location across from the Vista (4400 block of Sunset)
You might want to change the title and description of this post (again!). Not sure if you saw my above comment, but I’m pretty sure this Stan’s was not in Sacramento!]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-404759">Martin Turnbull</a>.</p>
<p>This photo with Dorothy is the location across from the Vista (4400 block of Sunset)</p>
<p>You might want to change the title and description of this post (again!). Not sure if you saw my above comment, but I’m pretty sure this Stan’s was not in Sacramento!</p>
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By: Martin Turnbull </title>
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<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Turnbull]]></dc:creator>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://martinturnbull.com/2015/03/04/stans-drive-in-restaurant-at-the-corner-of-16th-and-k-streets-sacramento-california-1958/#comment-404757">Shellee Graham</a>.
Thanks for that Shellee!]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for that Shellee!</p>
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